tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post2581726052481370983..comments2024-02-25T02:44:23.243-08:00Comments on You and Me — and Adult ADHD: The "Invisible Ropes" of Adult ADHD, And How A Special Type of Therapy Can Help Set You FreeGina Perahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-35076976596679347842013-06-16T17:10:31.030-07:002013-06-16T17:10:31.030-07:00Hi "more patient mother,"
I'm gla...Hi "more patient mother," <br /><br />I'm glad you found the post helpful. Indeed, these two Drs. Russell -- Barkley and Ramsay -- have contributed a great deal to understanding ADHD and its treatment strategies. We are so lucky to have them.<br /><br />best,<br />gGina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-31270447623497150832013-05-21T21:56:05.031-07:002013-05-21T21:56:05.031-07:00I am very excited about this article. I recently g...I am very excited about this article. I recently got re-diagnosed as an adult with ADHD. I can't wait to find out if my therapist does CBT/ADHD. If not, i will deffinitly be buying this book. <br /><br />I think that understanding and researching this illness, makes a vast improvement on your outlook of the results. Dr.Russell Barkley really made a huge impact on my understanding of ADHD. Ita more patient motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14507019497622791221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-69524842372748643772010-12-07T08:05:36.512-08:002010-12-07T08:05:36.512-08:00Hi JZ,
Thanks for stopping in. Yes, psychologist...Hi JZ,<br /><br />Thanks for stopping in. Yes, psychologist Mary Solanto has done some research into CBT/ADHD effectiveness. Maybe she is starting such a group.<br /><br />At any rate. thanks for letting us know of such a group. Indeed they are hard to come by!<br /><br />GinaGina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-314196016556246792010-12-07T01:39:14.587-08:002010-12-07T01:39:14.587-08:00Gina, I'm new to your blog. I believe a psyc...Gina, I'm new to your blog. I believe a psychiatrist at Mt. Sinai Hospital in NYC is creating a CBT for ADHD group. I cannot remember her name but I was browsing the NYC ADHD group and it was mentioned. CBT is considered a "gold standard" of therapy.....but there are not a lot of clinically trained CBT providers.jzflieghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12329902191774635785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-23955717211132645762010-11-06T20:31:04.793-07:002010-11-06T20:31:04.793-07:00Hi Akania,
Remember....it's CBT FOR ADHD. Th...Hi Akania,<br /><br />Remember....it's CBT FOR ADHD. The standard CBT is NOT recommended for ADHD, says Dr. Ramsay. And for the very reason you describe -- because it doesn't factor in ADHD's neurobiological underpinnings. Best to stay away from any therapist who doesn't understand this about ADHD.<br /><br />I love Mindfulness Meditation, but I could see how many people withGina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-83104927895363167622010-11-06T14:19:24.830-07:002010-11-06T14:19:24.830-07:00I've heard a lot about Mindfulness Meditation ...I've heard a lot about Mindfulness Meditation but it's only started working for me when I got medicated. CBT looks promising but it's also irritating when those who implement it KNOW I have ADHD and when it doesn't work out, accuse of me not wanting to help myself.Akaniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00598234231868205984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-64616923233274635442010-09-17T09:41:57.250-07:002010-09-17T09:41:57.250-07:00Katy
I can't imagine CBT/ADHD not continuing...Katy <br /><br />I can't imagine CBT/ADHD not continuing to be a useful tool. It's so foundational, at least for the late-diagnosis adult with ADHD, and makes so much practical sense. <br /><br />Alison<br /><br />Thanks for that info. I'm a fan of Mindfulness Meditation, too. <br /><br />I'm less familiar with DBT, though I know it's often used in treating Borderline Gina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-10472889996833151192010-09-16T16:05:53.981-07:002010-09-16T16:05:53.981-07:00Excellent article. CBT is a very effective therapy...Excellent article. CBT is a very effective therapy for adults coping not only with ADHD symptoms but also the frustrations, low self esteem and in many cases co-morbidities such as anxiety and depression that can develop with a late diagnosis of ADHD.<br />And yes, ADHDers are challenged with issues of emotion dysregulation, and on that point, aspects of dialectical behavior therapy DBT can be Alison Baumanhttp://www.addcenters.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-70957161110154659212010-08-30T11:30:42.402-07:002010-08-30T11:30:42.402-07:00Upon a re-read, I can also see myself in the "...Upon a re-read, I can also see myself in the "Overgeneralization" portion. My initial reaction in my head usually involves ridiculous overgeneralizing of some kind. I am aware of it thought and often, when I feel myself reacting in that way, take it as a sign that I should wait to officially weigh in on a subject, until after I have taken the time to balance my cognitive baggage load 18 Channelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16841490256076600058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-72425818765748471762010-08-23T17:46:20.218-07:002010-08-23T17:46:20.218-07:00Hi Polly,
Yes, that's the idea! You're p...Hi Polly,<br /><br />Yes, that's the idea! You're probably talking about "Mastering Your Adult ADHD" by Steve Safren? He is another researcher who has studied ADHD-focused CBT strategies.Gina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663852607629403279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-53597876883727053902010-08-23T17:44:53.968-07:002010-08-23T17:44:53.968-07:00Hi folks,
@CBT -- One more thing..... Yes, most p...Hi folks,<br /><br />@CBT -- One more thing..... Yes, most people will not be able to find a therapist who specializes in this kind of CBT for ADHD. <br /><br />I wanted to share the principles behind it, though, so that both consumers and therapists know what is truly helpful when dealing with the common "emotional baggage" to late-diagnosis ADHD. Some people will buy a few books Gina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663852607629403279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-627451304333136052010-08-23T08:11:06.965-07:002010-08-23T08:11:06.965-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05081764423299341239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-74529613997038787982010-08-21T07:40:48.089-07:002010-08-21T07:40:48.089-07:00Excellent post. I can relate to all those differen...Excellent post. I can relate to all those different trains of thought, especially the comparing and should thoughts. I really know much about CBT. I had bought a workbook on managing adult ADHD, not realizing that it should be used in conjunction with one's therapist. When I have my next appointment with my therapist I will bring the book, and see if it's something she can help me with.Pollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13747958243702670987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-83371227902237445072010-08-16T09:39:03.849-07:002010-08-16T09:39:03.849-07:00Okay, Katy, now that you've also weighed in, I...Okay, Katy, now that you've also weighed in, I'll delete all of the small pix (I already deleted one after the first commenter complained).<br /><br />But I'm thinking this is also a good topic for discussion in the future -- the hard time some pwADHD have in "tuning out" one thing in order to get to the larger thing. Filtering out.<br /><br />Maybe it also ties in with the Gina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-40106873918440879462010-08-15T20:27:24.414-07:002010-08-15T20:27:24.414-07:00Very interesting post...I think the part that has ...Very interesting post...I think the part that has impacted me the most though, is those elephant photos. They're nauseating.<br /><br />As for therapy...I've certainly encountered this kind of "balancing of thinking" in my therapy experiences. One thing my therapist tells me to think about: "radical acceptance". She knows I spend a lot of time weighting my thinking 18 Channelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16841490256076600058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-47310136579953446902010-08-10T17:03:28.779-07:002010-08-10T17:03:28.779-07:00Hi there,
Thanks for visiting.
Just to be clear ...Hi there,<br /><br />Thanks for visiting.<br /><br />Just to be clear for this blog's readers: "straight" CBT that does not take into account ADHD's neurobiological underpinnings is not advised by Dr. Ramsay. It's CBT that incorporates a special focus on ADHD that has been shown helpful.<br /><br />GinaGina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-69892179242555300752010-08-10T16:25:52.033-07:002010-08-10T16:25:52.033-07:00I agree totally that cognitive behavioral therapy ...I agree totally that cognitive behavioral therapy is one of the best treatments available nowadays. But it is always good to go for the best treatment possible. Some patients get well with just CBT while others with a combination of CBT and medication. But above all else, what they need is a strong support system from family and friends. Thanks a lot for this post.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07021245172002087343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-60641375224436587462010-08-06T21:22:11.163-07:002010-08-06T21:22:11.163-07:00Hi Scott,
You are a LEARNER, that's for sure!...Hi Scott,<br /><br />You are a LEARNER, that's for sure! A veritable sponge! :-)<br /><br />gGina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-41799879872641489632010-08-06T21:21:14.352-07:002010-08-06T21:21:14.352-07:00Thanks Marie. I'm glad you liked it.
I am a ...Thanks Marie. I'm glad you liked it. <br /><br />I am a fan of the work of Drs. Ramsay and Rostain, and was grateful to be able to share Dr. Ramsay's article with this blog's readers. <br /><br />There are many "experts" opining about ADHD, and it's really important to be selective.Gina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-50565406258339204962010-08-05T04:57:03.521-07:002010-08-05T04:57:03.521-07:00This is a really helpful article, Gina! I see my ...This is a really helpful article, Gina! I see my family members who become "stuck" when an ADHD-related incident occurs. I do the best I can to provide other perspectives, but sometimes they think I'm just "saying that to be nice". It would be so much more meaningful if they could consider things from a much more balanced perspective themselves. I know they can't Marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-45338503313484091462010-08-04T13:46:09.806-07:002010-08-04T13:46:09.806-07:00I think this could be very helpfull in understandi...I think this could be very helpfull in understanding the impact of psychologigal factors contributing to our cognitive behavior. The last sentences of my nueropsycholocigal evaluation a few yrs.ago> The patients self report inventory was similar to those patients who have limited insight of the impact of psychological factors...etc. Such patients typically are resistant to psychological Scott Hutsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08454268138477849476noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-86785293805746759362010-08-04T09:22:29.935-07:002010-08-04T09:22:29.935-07:00Sorry to hear that, Anonymous. It's good info...Sorry to hear that, Anonymous. It's good information.<br /><br />Maybe I should remove those three small photos; maybe it is too much.<br /><br />Then again, some people respond best to images, especially when they capture how they feel inside. When left unrecognized, ADHD can be cruel, too.Gina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11663852607629403279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-29590106347049974332010-08-04T03:40:49.146-07:002010-08-04T03:40:49.146-07:00The article sounds like it could be good -- but I ...The article sounds like it could be good -- but I just couldn't get past the invocations of cruelty in the accompanying photos. Even the "happy ending" photo is an elephant in a zoo - away from the vibrant social network of its kind. I would hope that my learning skills to hone my attention is not the same thing as internalizing the "ropes" and chains of the circus Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-33486861234460957202010-08-03T19:42:32.045-07:002010-08-03T19:42:32.045-07:00Hi Raksha,
I'm glad you enjoyed Dr. Ramsay...Hi Raksha,<br /><br />I'm glad you enjoyed Dr. Ramsay's article. He knows this territory very well! <br /><br />GinaGina Perahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08617490362195568500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6846377402285832776.post-21938139374255372812010-08-03T16:00:00.876-07:002010-08-03T16:00:00.876-07:00WOW...thank you for posting this, Gina!!! I know ...WOW...thank you for posting this, Gina!!! I know ALL about those "invisible ropes," everything except what to do about 'em. This is the first I've heard of CBT (ADD-specific or not) and it definitely sounds like something I should look into.Rakshahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11280365011937595321noreply@blogger.com